Game updated to version 1.13

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Game updated to version 1.13

Postby cliffski » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:29 pm

Just redownload using your purchase link to get the new version if you have already bought it (email me if problems)
The demo link has been updated to reflect the new version.

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1.1   Added display of current stock level to the mechandise entries in shop screen.
      Change main GUI to have fixed positions and no dragging around.
      Added mini icons to musicians icons to show their possesions.
      Added some play balancing stuff, including some rare events.
      Added a new female avatar and new NPCs (m33) (f19)
      Added buttons to merchandise icons to buy more, and added button to merchandise details to do the same.
      Fixed bug where people complained about not having cheap food when they have expensive food etc.
      Changed Tiredness to 'stress' and its now replacing musical ability on main gui.
      Fixed some missing tooltips.
      Added display of current cash balance to the book gig screen.
      Added display of current cash balance to the rehearsal screen.
      Added games console to reduce band stress.
      Added new member of staff - Publicist.
      Added new member of staff - Expert Sound Engineer.
      Changed the way sound and lighting engineers get paid.
      Changed shop display for staff so buttons say 'hire' and don't show a purchase price.
      Improved formatting of asset details screen for numbers.
      Band members now say something appreciative if you buy them something.
      Added 3 new choices of how to spend your days off.
      changed sound for songwriting minigame.
      Your characters musical ability no longer degrades too fast     
      Added Preview images for the avatar variants in new game GUI.
      Reduced effectiveness of masseuse
      Added commas for thousands in the album details screen (number sold)
      Tweaked some values to make the end game harder
1.11  Fixed a few sound engine bugs
      Upgraded to latest FMOD build
      Fixed some poor formatting on rehearsal and gig book screens for negative cash balances
     
1.12  Fixed bug where gig venue hire was charged twice.
      Balanced a number of different simulation values
      Fixed formating so you get commas in thousands on merchandise quantity names
      Fixed bug where some dialogs would appear for no reason.

1.13  Changed sound system to use software mixing to avoid some sound card bugs, and do less paranoid error reporting
      Fixed crash where music shop tried to give a free instrument and band was empty.
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Postby salaena1000 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:15 pm

hey cliff thanks so much for the updates, theyre great;) have one problem though.. the spa is crashing the game, says there is no file for it could you give us that file please.
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Postby cliffski » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:10 pm

There's always something isn't there :D I've fixed the demo and full versions now, just redownload them again. Sorry!
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Postby UNIVAC » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:06 am

Bought this on Monday. Most impressed so far, not just with the game but the ease of modification through .txt files and the continued support. Considering buying Kudos now...
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Postby Jacky13 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:38 am

Everything is fantastic, but my band members still complain if they don't have cheap rider and have a luxury rider......
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Postby cliffski » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:39 am

oh man..really? I was so sure this was gone. I will investigate further.
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Postby Prosayist » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:02 am

members still complain

oh man..really?

    yes, really.

Other things:

    :? Still, whether it's just my own rubbish instrument or something else I can't tell yet but I still only get sound out of 'practice' the first time after starting a game sometimes, not always.. sometimes there's not even sound then

    :D The title music is more continuous than it was in the last version (but I still have yet to hear any of the rival bands play music)

:? I can't seem to rearrange icons on the desktop. When clicking on any, it's taken as a double-click (the info window is displayed)

    :? Sometimes, on the auditions page, when choosing a new member, the current members say their thoughts below.. both characters are the same (it's apparently the same person judging from the icon though they have opposing ideas)

:? lately (the past 3 times my drummer has said anything):
Image

here it is: strings.ini line 735 [COMMENT_POSSESION_RESENTMENT]
"" at the end of the line

no, wait; maybe that wasn't it. (still happens)

    :? $33.36 in the red; the rehearsal page shows "Cash: $-3-3"

:? still having the same problem as before with adding merchandise. I can add the merch and it shows up in the store and I can buy it for the SRP and it shows that I have the specified quantity on-hand but I can't ever sell any (always have the same amount I had when first purchased)

-I added some merchandise and the line structure is similar to the 'tshirts' line but after a show it doesn't give the sales results on the GIGSCREEN, even if I add a seemingly appropriate line in 'strings.ini'.

Is there something else I'm missing?
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Postby cliffski » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:47 am

merchandise is not easy to mod unfortunately. Also, you can't drag stuff any more, a lot of people found that a bit messy and untidy, so the icons are now set in fixed positions. I think it's nicer that way, but if you really got used to the old way, it might seem weird at first.
I'll look into the other things you mentioned.
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Postby UNIVAC » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:23 pm

I'm still not getting constant sound. I haven't heard any of the rival bands although I have heard the radio station interview and the live show effects (I didn't even know there were sound effects for live shows!) Its usually when I first start the game, then the sound effects disappear.

I thought the rider bug and the instrument bug were solved, not getting either of those messages anymore. I think that might be because I keep the cheap rider and the expensive rider (more choice for the band :))

And I like the new align-to-grid desktop. Keeps things very neat and organized.
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Postby Prosayist » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:56 pm

.. haven't heard any of the rival bands..
.. when I first start the game, then the sound effects disappear.


UNIVAC's sound issues confirm that it's not just my rubbish instrument but actually something more global as they're the same things I've noticed starting with the last version but extending through this one.

As mentioned before, the title music is more consistent with this version though sometimes it does stop for awhile but when another year passes, it starts again from the beginning regardless of whether it had been playing before. As soon as I click away from the "what's happening today" page it stops again - it's pretty sporadic.

I noticed too that if I add the aforementioned 'merchandise' they overlap other icons on the desktop as if you hardcoded "this many" icon spaces available with no room for expansion. If it's not possible to add merchandise this doesn't matter

From the 'band icon' key in hints.csv:
You can double click anything to view details, or you can click and drag them to arrange them on the desktop as you see fit.


This is the reason I said I can't rearrange icons. I did notice that you aligned them in fixed positions and if I knew that moving them wasn't even an option I wouldn't have mentioned it but was thrown off by the 'hint'.

Could you possibly add a 'movable or fixed' option to the settings dialog?

I like the fact that classic icons are now part of the song title block instead of protruding out further, that's great.. something I noticed but didn't mention. Thanks.

Did you do anything about selling old CDs or adding songs from prior albums to new compilations yet? This is something I haven't noticed yet but, if old CDs still stop selling, could you make them appear under new CDs (actually, you'd prob'ly make new CDs appear on top of the old one)
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A dropdown menu or something for the CD releases would be good if you could implement that kinda control.. if you can sell old albums.. with stats for sales.. here I go rambling on about the same stuff, sorry.

You could (alternatively or in addition to the above stuff) group the songtitles together if they're part of an album.

Guess that's all for now, lookin' good!

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I miss the musicianship indicator on the main page. It's like before when you didn't have a 'stress' indicator, y'needta check each musician to find out their levels.

Also, could you look into changing the "YOU" and "THE BAND" into "<NAME>" and "<BANDNAME>" and/or when you double-click on (the green box currently titled) 'THE BAND' bring up a window as;
It has been 3 years and 4 months since you put together The Heatseekers' and so far you have earned... and you played.. released 3 CDs...

kinda like a YEAREND_SUMMARY but available anytime
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Postby UNIVAC » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:16 am

Prosayist wrote:As mentioned before, the title music is more consistent with this version though sometimes it does stop for awhile but when another year passes, it starts again from the beginning regardless of whether it had been playing before. As soon as I click away from the "what's happening today" page it stops again - it's pretty sporadic.


I'm getting the exact same thing. What sound card are you using? I've got a Soundblaster Audigy LS.

Did you do anything about selling old CDs or adding songs from prior albums to new compilations yet? This is something I haven't noticed yet but, if old CDs still stop selling, could you make them appear under new CDs (actually, you'd prob'ly make new CDs appear on top of the old one)
    or
A dropdown menu or something for the CD releases would be good if you could implement that kinda control.. if you can sell old albums.. with stats for sales.. here I go rambling on about the same stuff, sorry.


I think albums and album sales is important enough to warrant its own screen instead of icons on the desktop. There's enough room for a button on the toolbar. Line graphs showing week to week sales would be an excellent addition too. It'd help you work out when sales were dwindling and its time to release a new record.

Maybe it could be added to the band information screen you mentioned. Along with the band information and record sales, I'd like to see a history of the band (who's quit, who's been kicked.)
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Postby Prosayist » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:05 am

What sound card

SoundBlaster live
album sales is important enough to warrant its own screen

Finally somebody bold enough to admit that they share the same views as me :D

Maybe I haven't mentioned this before but I'm thinking along the same lines. An 'at-a-glance'-type section for the current CD stats (on the right, with the 'levels' for YOU/THE BAND.. I was thinking maybe a listmenu such as that for 'Font colour:' or 'Font size:' here on the "Post a reply" page or maybe just list name/date/stats for latest CD and clicking brings up a window with total album history), as you release an album it replaces the currently listed one (album name, release date|weeks since release, songs, sales, the line graphs like you said - perhaps even a different color line for each of your previously released albums) but also you can still sell old albums.

Have you ever bought an album by a band that had since released 5 more albums? ever said or heard said "Cool band but their last album sucks, buy their first album, it's much better."

There also should be some way, when looking at the list of songs, to determine which songs haven't yet made it to a CD.

Look at the other post I made and reply with your other ideas if they spark anything.
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Postby Prosayist » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:19 am

is this necessary?

When Five years have been completed, if you don't choose to continue but instead go to the main menu, there's no option to "go back to the game" nor to "save progress" (presumably the only way to get back to the game at this point is to load the 'autosave')
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Postby DodgyDaz » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:38 am

I am still having the sound issue, if I roll my mouse over the menu buttons at the bottom of the screen it causes the sound to stop. :(

I have a SB Audigy 5.1
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Postby Prosayist » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:45 am

yeah, I get that too. Sometimes when mousing over a button the music stops and sometimes it makes a clicking-type sound.

D'you experience also the same issues discussed above?
    -haven't heard any music from any of the rival band's shows,
    -don't always hear the camera flash for a web/newspaper interview,
    -rarely hear an instrument sound,
    -practice notes don't always produce sound and/or sometimes the sound lags,
    -not always sound from the radio interview etc..

I've 'manually' listened to some of the *.ogg files to hear what I'm missing and this would definitely make the game better than the silence we're used to.

Lots of good ideas floating around this forum for future features but does this also mean he won't fix the sound thing?

What does cliffski say about it?

we'll just hafta be patient. :)
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