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NEC 4

Postby 123stw » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:01 pm

I decided to start NEC 4. Yes the map has a 20% shield and engine bonus.

Rules for NEC 4

For each 5 NEC, you may skip up to 1 of your choice. You many not skip the latest challenge
You must beat all other NEC 4 challenges.
So
If we have NEC 4-1, NEC 4-2, NEC 4-3, you must beat all 3 to post NEC 4-4
If we are up to NEC 4-7, you make skip up to 1 from NEC 4-1 to 4-6 (you can't skip 4-7)

**UTOPIA HULL BANNED**

Let the Battles Begin.
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Re: NEC 4

Postby zGeneral » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:30 am

so we got a new NEC, about time ;-)

FYI
Map name is 0_NEC4
First NEC 4-1 is 48618694
Second NEC 4-2 is 48618793

plz guys do not lose track and stick to naming convention. i.e. NEC then space then 4 then -dash then count number (NEC 4-#) then description

btw, could not u ban Utopia from the ingame rule. I can still select it.

regarding the "skip rule", so if there are 10 NEC in total, I may skip 1 from first 5 and 1 from the last 5. but I can not skip number 10.
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Re: NEC 4

Postby 123stw » Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:36 am

You can skip any 2 from the first 9.

I don't think I can set a hull ban in the map, it be nice if I could.

BTW, do you think Tribe is balance here with the +20% shield and Utopia Ban? Or is Tribe still OP?
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Re: NEC 4

Postby thc » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:37 am

3 up. Obligatory missile spam. Should be pretty easy.

So are tribe shields now -50%+20% = -30% (70%) or 50%*120% = 60%?
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Re: NEC 4

Postby zGeneral » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:56 am

Tribe is still OP
banning UTOPIA did cripple it somehow, the other hulls are bulky and have less hardpoints. I had to leave some standard slots empty as I did not know what to do with them!.

thc wrote:3 up. Obligatory missile spam. Should be pretty easy.

So are tribe shields now -50%+20% = -30% (70%) or 50%*120% = 60%?


I was expecting missile spam to be next so I did not bother with scramblers as it wont be enough.
hope the next one (4) adds more diversity and not just a better missile spam

regarding tribe shield, it think it will be +20% after the -50% cut, so if the original shield was 100 points
Tribe penalty makes it 50 point
map makes it 50+20% = 60point

so tribe shield is now -40% instead of -50%
I think swarm will benifit alot from it
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Re: NEC 4

Postby Joecairo » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:36 pm

4-4 is up. Order fleet. A bit rushed I'm afraid.
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Re: NEC 4

Postby 123stw » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:22 pm

NEC 4-5 up.
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Re: NEC 4

Postby zGeneral » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:52 pm

123stw wrote:NEC 4-5 up.


man, you are going to scare ppl off with this tactic, it is so annoying on its own, let alone being in NEC.
the good thing is ppl can skip it after NEC-4-6 is posted

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NEC 4-6 done

sorry for posting multiple versions, last one is v3, deleted previous 2
I hope you like it. it is fun to watch (from my side at least) the opposite fleet being split into two/three groups, then my corner swarms kills them one group at a time. hehe
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Re: NEC 4

Postby thc » Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:49 am

Don't you think corner banging defeats the purpose of the engine rule? And do those frigs even have engines?
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Re: NEC 4

Postby zGeneral » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:51 am

thc wrote:Don't you think corner banging defeats the purpose of the engine rule? And do those frigs even have engines?


To some extent yes, but they will be on the move when u kill the bottom corner decoys!. then they will be as fast as ur missile spam fleet!
so all of them have engines. and if I let go the Frigs, they will be faster (0.55speed) than my cruisers
it is a trick that I used with "orders tool" to keep them stay in their place! ;-). which comply with the rules.

we need more ppl to participate in this. how can we do that?
pesonally, I found about SACs from the map description in game. we should have done the same to NEC.

or maybe, all of us should type "NEC tournament, check forum for details positech.co.uk/forums" in the description
I have reposted my last NEC with the above description
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Re: NEC 4

Postby Lonestar » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:37 pm

I do not play these for two reason's:
1) I have no DLC content.
2) see number one.

I Have a fixed income at the moment and unable to squezzze out the little that is needed to get the DLC's So untill i can do that, or get a job i'm stuck with just the base game.

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Re: NEC 4

Postby Ramcat » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:10 pm

Yeah, that's why I made the rule, 'if you can't download it, you don't have to play it'.

As for me I do have all the DLC except Nomads and as it is I can only download three of the matches. I beat two of them but not the Swarm Frigates, which I could skip, if I read the rules right.

So, for the NEC 4, do I post NEC 4-7 or not?
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Re: NEC 4

Postby zGeneral » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:38 pm

Ramcat wrote:Yeah, that's why I made the rule, 'if you can't download it, you don't have to play it'.

As for me I do have all the DLC except Nomads and as it is I can only download three of the matches. I beat two of them but not the Swarm Frigates, which I could skip, if I read the rules right.

So, for the NEC 4, do I post NEC 4-7 or not?


as per the rules, u can post NEC-4-7 is u can beat 4 from 1 to 5 (skip one) + u need to beat 4-6
but how did u play vs my NEC-4-6 it has nomads in it, same goes for NEC-4-3?
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Re: NEC 4

Postby 123stw » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:10 pm

Ramcat wrote:Yeah, that's why I made the rule, 'if you can't download it, you don't have to play it'.

As for me I do have all the DLC except Nomads and as it is I can only download three of the matches. I beat two of them but not the Swarm Frigates, which I could skip, if I read the rules right.

So, for the NEC 4, do I post NEC 4-7 or not?


This does have problems for those who don't own any DLC, then they can post challenges without beating most of them, which defeats the purpose of NEC.

Also, if the "can download" rule is to be implemented, then the rules will be "4 out of 5 you can download". Otherwise it will be significantly easier for those with missing contents.
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Re: NEC 4

Postby thc » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:20 am

zGeneral wrote:
thc wrote:Don't you think corner banging defeats the purpose of the engine rule? And do those frigs even have engines?


To some extent yes, but they will be on the move when u kill the bottom corner decoys!. then they will be as fast as ur missile spam fleet!
so all of them have engines. and if I let go the Frigs, they will be faster (0.55speed) than my cruisers
it is a trick that I used with "orders tool" to keep them stay in their place! ;-). which comply with the rules.

The engine rule was set up to prevent exactly this type of situation. Every missile spam would benefit from banging the corner, but that makes it extremely lame.

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