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Postby alimarin » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:51 pm

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ponyus wrote:1. im not sure, but i think you have to name the files "myship_damaged.dds" and "myship_hulk.dds". try that if you havnt already.

2. the deserter mod is still in alpha stage. alot will change, so if you include my mod now, it will be waay off later on. so not right now... and i cant prommise that ill allow it later iether. i hope im not comming off as a selfish douche, but i dont like to leave the the work of my mod into other peoples hands. i may however help out with ship designs (since thats really the only freelance work i am comfortable with)

that said, good luck with the mod! i hope you realise what a huge task you have put on your shoulders!

lycka till! as we say here :)



I have done it once before, just it was ridiculous hard to keep up with the patches, back in the days of 1.25



I finally got the ship hulls working fully, but the in-game GSB editor crashed on my saving of the ship's info.
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Postby ponyus » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:09 pm

alimarin wrote:
I finally got the ship hulls working fully, but the in-game GSB editor crashed on my saving of the ship's info.


that happens to me too. there is no known way to fix it... sadly...
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Postby Archduke Astro » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:13 pm

alimarin wrote:I finally got the ship hulls working fully, but the in-game GSB editor crashed on my saving of the ship's info.

I wouldn't rely too heavily upon that hull-editor from Cliffski.

Be sure to only work on one hull at a time. As soon as you're done with it, save your work
and then immediately leave the Hull Editor and quit the game.
It's the only way to safely avoid what happened to you this time.


The only reason the editor went public at all is because Cliff happened to mention that he uses it for his own purposes, and it's therefore nowhere nearly polished and de-bugged enough for heavy use. The veteran modders leaned on him and begged him to release it; warts and all. I think some of us have regretted that more than once. ;)

The hull editor's not reliable. It's very convenient -- when it works, that is -- but it's not that great of a substitute for hand-coding the textfiles yourself. Proceed with caution. What good is an electronic assistant that can't be trusted to not flush your hard work down the toilet?

While it's true that hand-coding takes much longer, it's also true that hand-coding is 100% reliable. Good modding should not be done in haste, anyhow; that just encourages sloppy results and poor gameplay quality. I'm NOT saying that you should not use the Hull Editor -- it's a wonderful time-saver -- just make sure that you use it intelligently. It will choke if you try to modify more than one hull per editing session, and I would hate to see your ship data get corrupted needlessly.

Regardless of which way you choose to proceed, good luck to you.
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Postby alimarin » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:17 pm

ponyus wrote:
alimarin wrote:
I finally got the ship hulls working fully, but the in-game GSB editor crashed on my saving of the ship's info.


that happens to me too. there is no known way to fix it... sadly...



Well... Cliffski could fix it. But that's for him, does anybody have any 3rd party tools for modules and hulls?
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Postby Archduke Astro » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:22 pm

alimarin wrote:Well... Cliffski could fix it. But that's for him, does anybody have any 3rd party tools for modules and hulls?

Yes; GIMP and Paint Dot Net. Both are really good - and free - graphics editors which will handle .dds files with ease. Which one happens to be the "better" program depends upon who you ask around here. ;) Some modders have pretty strong opinions on this subject. PDN is Windows only, but GIMP offers Windows, Mac and Linux versions.
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Postby alimarin » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:26 pm

Archduke Astro wrote:
alimarin wrote:Well... Cliffski could fix it. But that's for him, does anybody have any 3rd party tools for modules and hulls?

Yes; GIMP and Paint Dot Net. Both are really good - and free - graphics editors which will handle .dds files with ease. Which one happens to be the "better" program depends upon who you ask around here. ;) Some modders have pretty strong opinions on this subject. PDN is Windows only, but GIMP offers Windows, Mac and Linux versions.



I've already got Adobe Photoshop with the .DDS plugin, I got the graphics down, I just need some utility that modifies text files without having to do it manually.
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Postby Archduke Astro » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:29 pm

alimarin wrote:I've already got Adobe Photoshop with the .DDS plugin, I got the graphics down, I just need some utility that modifies text files without having to do it manually.

Then you'll be waiting forever. ;) For directly linking starship hull sprites/graphics to a .txt, there is no such animal. Oh, there's a major need for one, though; I agree fully with that! You'd best get cozy with the Modding 101 guide and open a text editor.
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Postby alimarin » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:22 pm

Archduke Astro wrote:
alimarin wrote:I've already got Adobe Photoshop with the .DDS plugin, I got the graphics down, I just need some utility that modifies text files without having to do it manually.

Then you'll be waiting forever. ;) For directly linking starship hull sprites/graphics to a .txt, there is no such animal. Oh, there's a major need for one, though; I agree fully with that! You'd best get cozy with the Modding 101 guide and open a text editor.


Oh, I have plenty of experience with GSB's files...

I just wish there was some support, it takes much more time than I'd like it for some things.
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Postby Archduke Astro » Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:19 am

alimarin wrote:I just wish there was some support, it takes much more time than I'd like it for some things.

I hear you. Make the enforced slower design pace your ally instead of making it your enemy, then. Don't dissipate your energy on trying to crack barriers that are beyond all modders' reach (i.e., the permanently buggy & erratic nature of the hull-editor part of the game engine).

Since going faster is mostly impossible without the hull editor, flow around the obstacle instead -- reserve your energy for applied creativity. That's where it can be put to the best use. Quality takes time.
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Postby Lonestar » Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:29 pm

I have found that he in-game editor works just fin for me. It has thrown a fit twice and that was because of bad data in the file. I copy paste a lot form other ships. Save and close often if i go into the in-game editor i do one thing save, and then exit the game. That why that one change is going to be save on exit, or if crash i can redo it relatively fast. Otherwise i risk losing half an hours worth of work or more.
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Postby alimarin » Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:45 pm

Okay, I'm going radio silent for about a week. I'll update you guys then on progress on Saturday, August 20th, 2011.
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Postby alimarin » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:58 pm

Alright, it's time for an update for you guys.

I should be releasing the first version of the mod by the end of the month, I may or may not have all of the original races of the game done by then.

I am getting some good progress on the feds, will get alot of more done the next ten days, since weekends give me an extra couple hours to get this done.
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Postby SirJamon » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:24 pm

Oh! Finally the compilation mod is coming ^^, but I'm afraid I have to bring you bad news about using my mod, The 3xper1ment4l era.

That mod is really unfinished and the content I released is only a fraction of what I had planned for it, so I think you shouldn't be adding it here for now in case I ever update the mod. Remember that most of the sprites in there are made by Eich so I'm only pointing out that the code files could change with updates and shouldn't be used as they are yet.

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Postby alimarin » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:49 am

Plan on seeing some sort of release at around the end of the month, or the beginning of the next. (give or take a day)
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Postby alimarin » Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:53 am

After some thinking, I think I should put off releasing ANYTHING until I finish the entire mod, or, at least the full game's races, including the expansions, so sorry guys, no release in 2 days, I should have the entire base mod done by Christmas though, I will give an update or two every month.

I project I will be entirely done with the entire mod at around May of next year, 2012.
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