Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby Styrax » Mon May 04, 2009 12:29 am

Interesting write up by Dick Morris. For some time, I've been baffled by public support for less government regulation of the market and such, but at the same time BO's numbers are still high. Seems to be he's still in a "honeymoon" with most people. Time will tell how long it lasts.
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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby seamus » Mon May 04, 2009 9:05 pm

Styrax wrote: All I'm saying is his honeymoon is pretty much over and he better start at least acting competent.


"acting competent"?
Where have you been for the past 100 days? Watching fox news, i guess...
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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby Styrax » Tue May 05, 2009 12:03 am

seamus wrote:
Styrax wrote: All I'm saying is his honeymoon is pretty much over and he better start at least acting competent


"acting competent"?
Where have you been for the past 100 days? Watching fox news, i guess...

ok ok, you got me there. He must be "acting" then.
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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby seamus » Tue May 05, 2009 3:22 am

I was joking with my last post, btw.

Yeah im tired of obama's socialist rhetoric. hes ruining the economy! Can you believe he bailed out the banks, which he and other economists say were to big to fail? i mean even warren buffet defended obama's stimulus plan. And Donald trump defended obama's bank bailouts. It seems like all theses well known and successful economists, the media, and obama are all in some conspiracy to drive fascist communism down the american peoples throat. I SAY REVOLUTION, we all should go out and re-elect george bush and his republican cronies, because when he was president (with republican majorites) he led the country through 2 successful wars and a economic boom.
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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby Styrax » Tue May 05, 2009 4:11 am

seamus wrote:I was joking with my last post, btw.

Yeah im tired of obama's socialist rhetoric. hes ruining the economy! Can you believe he bailed out the banks, which he and other economists say were to big to fail? i mean even warren buffet defended obama's stimulus plan. And Donald trump defended obama's bank bailouts. It seems like all theses well known and successful economists, the media, and obama are all in some conspiracy to drive fascist communism down the american peoples throat. I SAY REVOLUTION, we all should go out and re-elect george bush and his republican cronies, because when he was president (with republican majorites) he led the country through 2 successful wars and a economic boom.

Thomas Sowell had said before the election that with McCain you had a "disaster", but under BO you had a "catastrophe". Granted, McCain would've been the same ole thing, but I think recovery would've been far quicker. Many economists were of the "do nothing" approach to the crisis. I do think some banks had to be helped, but with loans with no strings attached. As for corporate bailouts, let them fail, or declare bankruptcy. Most of the companies being bailed out are just going to turn around and give some of that money right back to the Congressmen who gave it to them in the first place. These companies aren't changing the way they operate, and the unions are killing them, too. Look at American auto companies versus Japanese auto companies.

It's funny you brought up revolution. I do see that happening years down the road. The natural course of mankind has been to drift towards collectivism, only to start the process all over again with a revolution of some sort. You can see a lot of similarities of the United States to ancient Rome. Ancient Romans used to have a free market economy and personal liberty. Over time though, Statists ended up taking over and soon enough you had the end of the republic.
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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby lucky14 » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:43 pm

ohms_law wrote:
cliffski wrote:Still, compared with Bush he is hugely popular in the press. I never hear any jokes or digs at him here in the UK media. It's a totally different situation to when Bush would visit and it was described as some evil tyrant visiting us.

That's just the "honeymoon period" effect. We'll all start seeing a change in coverage tenor by the end of the year.


Press likes him not because Obama is good, but because he is a stupid liberal (specifically him, and everyone on capital hill, who don't know how to run a free market :/ ). Bush isn't much different from Obama in direction...Obama is just going to get us there quicker :( And there is not good. Honestly, I liked the idea of me being able to decide if I wanted to eat Mac and Cheese or Hot Dogs, but even that will be under government control before Obama leaves office...I won't get started on my parent's tax money though.
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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby Styrax » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:11 am

Press likes him not because Obama is good, but because he is a stupid liberal (specifically him, and everyone on capital hill, who don't know how to run a free market :/ ). Bush isn't much different from Obama in direction...Obama is just going to get us there quicker :( And there is not good. Honestly, I liked the idea of me being able to decide if I wanted to eat Mac and Cheese or Hot Dogs, but even that will be under government control before Obama leaves office...I won't get started on my parent's tax money though.


I thought by this time the press would be harder on BO. If you actually look at things, the press is willing to surrender everything to this administration, like ABC. And a lot of these liberal news media companies would welcome nationalization with open arms. A true free market economy wouldn't be run by the government. The government's role would be to protect the consumers from scams and such. The economy the government wants to run they won't even do right.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/obama_as_liberal_messiah.html

You were close when you said the "press like him not because Obama is good, but because he is a stupid liberal". The press, who seems to be majority liberal, would look at BO as a god, or the "Messiah" as some have called him. The part in the link above about foreign tyrannical governments may very well explain most of BO's approach to foreign affairs. He seems to go out of his way to verbally support tyrannical Middle East Islamic countries, but wants to keep Israel in line. Is this possibly why he seems to be so hush-hush on Iran?
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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby shoe1985 » Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:10 am

seamus wrote:I was joking with my last post, btw.

Yeah im tired of obama's socialist rhetoric. hes ruining the economy! Can you believe he bailed out the banks, which he and other economists say were to big to fail? i mean even warren buffet defended obama's stimulus plan. And Donald trump defended obama's bank bailouts. It seems like all theses well known and successful economists, the media, and obama are all in some conspiracy to drive fascist communism down the american peoples throat. I SAY REVOLUTION, we all should go out and re-elect george bush and his republican cronies, because when he was president (with republican majorites) he led the country through 2 successful wars and a economic boom.


Being that I have a PHD in Economics, I have a great understanding of what would have happened if we did not bailout the banks or the financial institutions. Do you have a 401k plan? Do you have money in any bank? Well, many people do if you do not. That would all be wiped out. The FDIC is struggling to keep up with 90 banks, how would they keep up with 1,000s? They wouldn't be able too. The economy as a whole, global or country, would have completely collapsed. Your job would probably be gone. This would have been much much worse then the Great Depression.

Funny how you mention George Bush, considering this happened on his watch. In 2006 things really began to go awry. We did not see these things really pop up until 2007-2008. The economic boom was based on credit. People were spending like there was no tomorrow, and once that credit maxed out, well, hell broke loose, as we have seen.

If anything, we should consider moving towards Independents. Say screw this two part system, and go for someone who has never had control, and really change things.

Also, you have to remember, Obama's first 100 days were trying to save the economy, getting his agenda through, and praying things don't fall apart in the process. Considering it is September, and job losses have dropped by over 500,000, sales are up, things are improving. But, we are years away from being were we once were. Hopefully, people wise up and don't spend what they do not have, like that will happen.

Amazing how people want jobs, I thought everyone supported piracy? Who is going to provide you a job when you do not plan to buy anything, but rather take?
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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby Styrax » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:00 pm

shoe1985 wrote:
Being that I have a PHD in Economics, I have a great understanding of what would have happened if we did not bailout the banks or the financial institutions. Do you have a 401k plan? Do you have money in any bank? Well, many people do if you do not. That would all be wiped out. The FDIC is struggling to keep up with 90 banks, how would they keep up with 1,000s? They wouldn't be able too. The economy as a whole, global or country, would have completely collapsed. Your job would probably be gone. This would have been much much worse then the Great Depression.

Funny how you mention George Bush, considering this happened on his watch. In 2006 things really began to go awry. We did not see these things really pop up until 2007-2008. The economic boom was based on credit. People were spending like there was no tomorrow, and once that credit maxed out, well, hell broke loose, as we have seen.

If anything, we should consider moving towards Independents. Say screw this two part system, and go for someone who has never had control, and really change things.

Also, you have to remember, Obama's first 100 days were trying to save the economy, getting his agenda through, and praying things don't fall apart in the process. Considering it is September, and job losses have dropped by over 500,000, sales are up, things are improving. But, we are years away from being were we once were. Hopefully, people wise up and don't spend what they do not have, like that will happen.

Amazing how people want jobs, I thought everyone supported piracy? Who is going to provide you a job when you do not plan to buy anything, but rather take?

Bush did attempt to get Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under control, but Congress didn't support it. My issues with Obama aside, I have bigger issues with Congress. Did you know they gave themselves a bigger budget this year? They don't even attempt to read the bills. Their approval rating is dismal, yet the American people repeatedly re-elect them to office.

In retrospect, do you think Obama had any interest in saving the economy as quickly as possible? I'm willing to bet he thought that the longer the economy was down, the greater the chance he could get the social programs that the left wanted for years through. Like Rahm said, "don't let a good crisis go to waste."
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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby shoe1985 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:33 pm

Styrax wrote:Bush did attempt to get Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under control, but Congress didn't support it. My issues with Obama aside, I have bigger issues with Congress. Did you know they gave themselves a bigger budget this year? They don't even attempt to read the bills. Their approval rating is dismal, yet the American people repeatedly re-elect them to office.

In retrospect, do you think Obama had any interest in saving the economy as quickly as possible? I'm willing to bet he thought that the longer the economy was down, the greater the chance he could get the social programs that the left wanted for years through. Like Rahm said, "don't let a good crisis go to waste."


Here is my issue with a one party Congress, it sucks. There is very little debate, which goes with their lack of reading bills. Something needs to be done with this, but nothing will be done.

Giving themselves a bigger budget is a bad idea. We should be tightening the budget to keep things low. I am a supporter of spending for things that need to be done: getting the roads fixed, getting schools up-to-date, and getting our energy situation under control. To do the last part, make government buildings as energy efficient as possible. Get solar panels up, use better lightbulbs, bring in more energy star products, and I could go on and on, but I think you get my point. This alone would save the taxpayer in the long run in these costs. We want to drive vehicles that allow for energy efficient vehicles, which means smaller vehicles. We need roads that allow for this, get them fixed. The current school system it out of date. Lets start remodeling them by making them energy efficient as government buildings. Make Science, Math, English, and foreign language classes the center piece. Science and math is easy to understand why. Most kids today can barely speak or write English, fix the problem. How many Americans can speak more than one language? Exactly. Also, kids need to come out knowing how to use the Office Suite, whether it is Microsoft or Open, teach it. Another thing is speaking in front of a lot of people. I cannot believe how poorly people speak in large groups.

As for their approval rating, Congress usually has a poor approval rating, not a big deal to me.

As for Obama and his interests, I don't know what he is thinking. For a President to walk into a mess like he did, it is a great opportunity to get his programs through. It would be great for any President for that reason alone. Our economy needs reshaping, whether these programs are the way to go, we will know down the road. It is a guessing game right now. What have we done as a country to prepare for the future? Very little. At least someone is trying to do something.
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Re: Predictions for obmas first 100 days?

Postby 108Gamer » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:41 pm

Well, its almost been a year now and it looks he hasn't accomplished a lot. As a matter of fact it seems he has taken a turnaround on some of the issues, like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now he's sending more troops instead of ending the wars like he said before the election. And for that he gets the nobel peace prize haha...also, Guantanamo is still not closed, no health care reform, no energy reform. Granted some people are giving him and his administration a tough time but to be honest and as cliffski wondered about in his opening post, it looks like he has gotten sucked up into the status quo/special interest sectors like most presidents before him. He doesn't seem to mind much...?

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